Which bullet for mule deer

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby Pruneemac » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:08 pm

130
bucks wind better at longer distance

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby Pruneemac » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:08 pm

130
bucks wind better at longer distance

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby TexasHunter83 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:48 pm

I've killed a Whitetail buck and an Antelope buck with 130 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. The Whitetail was shot at 40 yards so there's not much to say about the bullet's performance at that range. The antelope I hit at 200 yards. He ran about 50-75 yards before he dropped. When we field dressed him we found the bullet completely intact. The ballistic tip had exploded and all that was left was the bullet itself; no expansion. I chose this round originally because it was accuracte, but I'm second guessing it now... That being said I prefer the 130 grains out of a .270.

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby gizmo1 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:59 pm

Well, I would have to say I would go with the 130 just because I like shooting a little extra weight. Maybe it's a head thing but I think a little extra helps specially if if the shot is a little less than perfect.
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110TTSX/130TTSX/150TSXFB

Postby nanuk-O-Dah-Nort » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:09 am

i used a calculator for the above bullets using published average velocities or the OP's numbers. so the comparison is a bit skewed but I think shows a trend.
I assume a 1"/100yd accuracy, and include the error in the calculations. also assumed a 10mph direct crosswind.
110TTSXBT@3550 gives a 340yd MPBR with 2639fps 1700fpe remaining MRT 4"@180yds windage 8.3
130TTSXBT@3230 gives a 310yd MPBR with 2477fps 1770fpe remaining MRT 4"@160yds windage 7.3
150TSXFB @3136 gives a 310yd MPBR with 2387fps 1898fpe remaining MRT 4"@160yds windage 7.7


just to try to give a theoretical comparison for the 110, I looked at the Vel/Energy of the 257Roberts 115gr NosPart.@ 2777 published speed. At 340yds, Bob has 2028fps and 1050fpe remaining. Now I'm not sure about you guys, but no one I know would balk at taking a 340yd shot at a deer with the Bob if they were sighted in appropriately and knew the drop.
The 110TTSX has it beat by 600fps and 650fpe


if you think going even lower is better
85grTSXFB @3900 gives a 340yd MPBR with 2474fps 1155fpe remaining MRT 4"@180-200yds windage 12.1
95grTTSXBT@3700 gives a 340yd MPBR with 2538fps 1359fpe remaining MRT 4"@180yds windage 10.3

time of flight for all the barnes to their MPBR is very close, 0.329 to 0.345... not enough to worry about here either.


so, using the published numbers, there appears to be a bit of an advantage ballistics wise going with the 110TTSXBT over the others.

when I start working on my 270Win, I'm certainly going to try the 110TTSXBT.

Shags1 wrote: I picked up a .270 Win a couple of years back .... recommended a 150 gr. Berger VLD (similar to your Barnes). ...Velocities are similar to your Short at 3100 - 3300 f.p.s..


Now, if I could get the load data from Shags1, my Ruger with a 26" barrel should be able to match it! a 150gr at 3300 is very impressive.

150grBVLD@3300 gives a 330yd MPBR with 2711fps 2448fpe remaining MRT 4"@180yds windage 5.5 TOF 0.331
hmmm... the only advantage here is the winddrift advantage of 3
I have to wonder if the increased Recoil would offset that 3" windage advantage...

I'm still liking the 110TTSX

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby M.Bird » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:28 pm

why do you want a varmint rifle?
to burn up your barrel?

you are hunting Mule deer, get closer to them (with in 200yrds) and shoot a 130 or 150 gr bullet

As for the brand, if you are reloading you have lots of choices and work ahead

if buying shelf items, see what your rifle likes the best, the one that shoots best from your barrel

Or you buy into the HYPE, and be a member of the bullet of the month club.

I have been shooting the same load though my 30-06 since 1979 from New Mexico to Alaska it has NEVER FAILED

Don't worry about bullet speed, it is not like the deer will string jump a bullet

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby TexasHunter83 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:16 pm

M.Bird wrote:why do you want a varmint rifle?
to burn up your barrel?

you are hunting Mule deer, get closer to them (with in 200yrds) and shoot a 130 or 150 gr bullet

As for the brand, if you are reloading you have lots of choices and work ahead

if buying shelf items, see what your rifle likes the best, the one that shoots best from your barrel

Or you buy into the HYPE, and be a member of the bullet of the month club.

I have been shooting the same load though my 30-06 since 1979 from New Mexico to Alaska it has NEVER FAILED

Don't worry about bullet speed, it is not like the deer will string jump a bullet


Exactly, while ballistics are an interesting concept and fun to calculate, sometimes we can all get a little crazy with choosing the right ammo. I think, for the most part, we're splitting hairs here. I've seen a lot of people worry about a 200 fps difference in velocity when in all reality, the deer isn't going to dodge the bullet. Now I can see if it's someone's life goal to take a mule deer at 800 yards, then they might need to do some figuring, but I personally wouldn't attempt taking most game at that distance; especially mule deer. My dad killed his at under 100 yards with a plain-Jane Remington Core Lokt ammo, nothing special. I'm not excluding myself either; I too have been victim of over analyzing ballistics only to realize that I'm kind of wasting my time worrying about minute differences with no real difference in hunting performance. Good Post M.Bird

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby Curtisshootsdeer » Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:29 pm

Heavier bullets all the way
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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby Bberan31 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:42 pm

150 TTSX 7mm Rem mag. Ill post the monster I harvest come the first week of Nov. Confidence and patience is going to get me the job done.

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Re: Which bullet for mule deer

Postby Bberan31 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:58 am

I just got a spike muley in unit 8 AZ. Used a 175grain 7mm. It put a hole in buddy the size of a half dollar. I would recommend what I used as it is a devastating caliber.


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