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500 yard muzzy?

Postby southwind » Sun May 29, 2011 7:22 pm

The Davidson's were promoting their new Gunwerks long range muzzle loader on the recent G7 Long Range Pursuit They were shooting at 500 yards and took a muley at around 350 yards. Did antone catch this?

It looked like they were using Blackhorn 209 which I use and like. other than that I couldnt tell.

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby Bigd7400 » Mon May 30, 2011 8:17 pm

Didn't see it myself but I would have to be skeptical that a BP rifle could hold enough energy to cleanly harvest game of any size at that distance. Even shooting 150 grains of powder and something like a powerbelt that bullet would loose momentum quick after 150-200 yards. Do I think they could shoot one that far accurately, yes, but not to kill anything ethically. Just my opinion.
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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby dahlmer » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:45 pm

Seems to kind of defeat the purpose of using a muzzleloader.

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby southwind » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:31 pm

I agree with you both. I understand inlines, I have one myself and we are always trying to push the limits with everything we do but this one really leaves me flat and wondering why?

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby maintguy47 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:36 pm

I have a Pursuit. I took it on a hunt back in Dec. When I got up there I spent about $200 worth of powder and 3/4 of day practiceing out to 300yrds. Had I gotten the chance I would not have hesitated takeing an elk out to three hundred yards. But would not have tried beyound that. 150gr powder 270grn powerbelt=velocity@250yrds 2721-ftpnds@250yrds 986. At least on my rig.

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby spoofman » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:18 pm

I seen the show and it looked like the first shot injured it. Only with a second shot was he able to knock it down. I used to guide on a limited entry unit and had one client shoot an elk at 365 yards and we had to wait 20 mins for it to drop. I couldnt tell if he gut shot it or not and didnt want to push it into the timber. I was rather upset for him to try at that distance, lone behold he hit it in both lungs but the sabot hardly expanded so it took some time. I have personally killed a deet at 205 yards and it was a clean kill. however i had my gun sighted in at that range as i hunt the high country. wouldnt recommend just hoping and firing unless you know the balistics and have practiced though.

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby tx_packmule » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:35 pm

http://mcwhorterrifles.com/GunRackPages ... oader.html

seems to be the thing to do lately with the MLs

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby Muley Stalker » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:09 pm

maintguy47 wrote:I have a Pursuit. I took it on a hunt back in Dec. When I got up there I spent about $200 worth of powder and 3/4 of day practiceing out to 300yrds. Had I gotten the chance I would not have hesitated takeing an elk out to three hundred yards. But would not have tried beyound that. 150gr powder 270grn powerbelt=velocity@250yrds 2721-ftpnds@250yrds 986. At least on my rig.



Your figures are a bit off on the fps. Powerbelt has these listed.
270gr Platinum
150 gr powder
muzzle...2130 fps
250 yds...1365 fps

The good news is the fpe at 250 yds is 1117. It would be marginal at 300 yds for elk. Better for deer.

The rest of the bad news is it's dropped 14 inches at 250yds with a 150 yd zero. I'm guessing another 10-12" at 300yds.
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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby maintguy47 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:17 pm

Balistic charts are a great place to start. You recon they carried a chrono up to 10,000ft and fired as many rounds as I did.N36deg 35.07 W106deg 16.37. I wanted to make sure that the Nikon Omega balistaplex was hitting dead on the marks they represented. Was it over the top to spend 1 out of 4 hunting days makeing sure I knew my weapon. I don't think so. JMO and results. Someone once said beleive but confirm. Never got a shot anyway. But unless the wind got up I am confidant in my weapon.

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Re: 500 yard muzzy?

Postby Muley Stalker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:53 am

Good luck with those long shots. Lucky for me I don't have to take them. I hunt the high timber, and keep my shots under 125yds. Easier for my old eyes.
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