Muzzy question
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Muzzy question
Ok guys, i'm so far out of the muzzle loader loop it's not even funny, but i have a question for everyone.
My son drew a book cliffs tag this year and i bought him a Knight disc extreme .50 cal. I went to Cabela's yesterday and asked a guy who looked like he knew his stuff. He set me up with some goodies and told me it's what HE uses and recommends....so i bought it.
First off he said to go with 245gr powrebelts and back them up with two 50 grain pyrodex powder charges, (100 total) and ignite them with the Winchester 209 inline primers and sight in 3" high at 100yds.
Does this sound like a good set up to you guys??
My son drew a book cliffs tag this year and i bought him a Knight disc extreme .50 cal. I went to Cabela's yesterday and asked a guy who looked like he knew his stuff. He set me up with some goodies and told me it's what HE uses and recommends....so i bought it.
First off he said to go with 245gr powrebelts and back them up with two 50 grain pyrodex powder charges, (100 total) and ignite them with the Winchester 209 inline primers and sight in 3" high at 100yds.
Does this sound like a good set up to you guys??
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Thanks for the quick reply 9er!
No scope, that was the other question i should have asked.
The guy i talked too at Cabela's like the "dot" scope for muzzle loaders. (he didn't work there, he was a customer)
I was just thinking of keeping them "open sight's"....but i'm definately not closed minded on the subject.
No scope, that was the other question i should have asked.
The guy i talked too at Cabela's like the "dot" scope for muzzle loaders. (he didn't work there, he was a customer)
I was just thinking of keeping them "open sight's"....but i'm definately not closed minded on the subject.
skull,
i happen to have the knight disc, my sights will cover the whole deer at 125 yards, so imo, a scope is a definite must, to me it seems like the object/deer is further way when looking in a 1x scope, but at least it gives you some crosshairs and somthing to hold on and not just guessing! hope that helps
9er
i happen to have the knight disc, my sights will cover the whole deer at 125 yards, so imo, a scope is a definite must, to me it seems like the object/deer is further way when looking in a 1x scope, but at least it gives you some crosshairs and somthing to hold on and not just guessing! hope that helps
9er
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SK,
What shoots good in one muzzleloader doesn't necessarily shoot good in another. If your going to use pellets, then I would test several different bullets and powders to see which one shoots the best. I had the Power Belt Platinums shooting great last year, but it took me a while to work up the load and get it dialed in. I personally like 777 powder the best and I have never had a problem with the "crud ring" like some people do. Pyrodex is a pain in the butt to clean and I hate the smell. I just bought a new Knight and I am hoping to get my load dialed in within the next few weeks.
I shoot a Burris 1x and I love it. I have also heard good things about the Nikon Buckmaster 1x. My biggest concern with the red dots is they are battery operated and there could be electronic failure. I would probably see a monster buck and not get a shot because I forgot to turn it on or have a dead battery.....
What shoots good in one muzzleloader doesn't necessarily shoot good in another. If your going to use pellets, then I would test several different bullets and powders to see which one shoots the best. I had the Power Belt Platinums shooting great last year, but it took me a while to work up the load and get it dialed in. I personally like 777 powder the best and I have never had a problem with the "crud ring" like some people do. Pyrodex is a pain in the butt to clean and I hate the smell. I just bought a new Knight and I am hoping to get my load dialed in within the next few weeks.
I shoot a Burris 1x and I love it. I have also heard good things about the Nikon Buckmaster 1x. My biggest concern with the red dots is they are battery operated and there could be electronic failure. I would probably see a monster buck and not get a shot because I forgot to turn it on or have a dead battery.....
+1Torch wrote: I have also heard good things about the Nikon Buckmaster 1x. My biggest concern with the red dots is they are battery operated and there could be electronic failure. I would probably see a monster buck and not get a shot because I forgot to turn it on or have a dead battery.....
There's always next year
I'll second and third all the advice you've gotten thus far, though I prefer open sights myself on my muzzy. One other thing you might want to look into the the type or brand of primer. The 209's have a tendency to cause some fouling in the breech area and I believe it's Remington that has come out with a primer that helps to solve this. I've been using caps myself and haven't switched over to 209's because I'm too cheap. No sense in getting them when I still have a bunch of caps left!
It ain't the size of the gun but the placement of the bullet.
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Thanks everyone, great advice!!
Abert, you say you use open sights, can i ask how your groups are and if you still shoot good out past 100 yards? I'm still trying to decide on scopes or not.
The primers i got are the winchester "inline muzzle loaders only" primers, hopefully they won't give me issues!!
Abert, you say you use open sights, can i ask how your groups are and if you still shoot good out past 100 yards? I'm still trying to decide on scopes or not.
The primers i got are the winchester "inline muzzle loaders only" primers, hopefully they won't give me issues!!